Re: [dinosaur] "Yunyangosaurus" is not available

[Mickey Mortimer <mickey_mortimer111@msn.com>]

Well, that's a rather large issue, and considering how many papers Scientific Reports publishes, the number of animal taxa affected by this is probably in the hundreds.  And if we start ignoring that rule, the publication dates of many other taxa are affected.  Just among the abelisaurs I was adding before this, "Thanos" and "Tralkasaurus" are set to be 2020 names but would move to 2018 and 2019 respectively.  So what does the community do?

Mickey Mortimer

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Subject: Re: [dinosaur] "Yunyangosaurus" is not available

 

>> Hi all.  While writing the "Yunyangosaurus" entry for The Theropod Database, I noticed Dai et al.'s (2020) paper describing it has no mention of ZooBank.  ICZN Article 8.5.3. states names published electronically must "be registered in the Official Register of Zoological Nomenclature (ZooBank) (see Article 78.2.4) and contain evidence in the work itself that such registration has occurred."  So this obviously fails, and the name doesn't show up in ZooBank either.  Normally that solves itself eventually by the physical publication of the journal volume, but "Yunyangosaurus" was described in Scientific Reports.  As far as I can tell, Scientific Reports has no actual volumes,  just a huge list of articles every year, which would suggest it is not physically published.  Is this so?  And if so, doesn't that indicate that Dai et al. 2020 will never be valid under the ICZN and that something else needs to be done by the authors to fix this?

> According to its website, Scientific Reports has an online ISSN, but a paper ISSN is nowhere mentioned. This means that, as expected, it is published exclusively online, and that the name "Yunyangosaurus" is not available from the publication by Dai et al. (2020) or any other that yet exists.

> "Not available" means the ICZN doesn't recognize it as even existing. It does not compete for synonymy or homonymy.

> So, the ethical thing to do is to alert the authors that they need to publish a whole new paper. In that paper, they can say "Diagnosis: see Dai et al. (2020)", so the paper can be quite short, but it needs to be a whole new publication.

All invalid according to this, only the dinosaurs:

1. Lingyuanosaurus
2. Shishugounykus
3. Fukuivenator
4. Savannasaurus
5. Tongtianlong
6. Corythoraptor
7. Daspletosaurus horneri
8. Isaberrysaura
9. Mierasaurus
10. Xingxiulong
11. Anomalipes
12. Jinyunpelta
13. Yizhousaurus
14. Bajadasaurus
15. Xingtianosaurus
16. Yunyangosaurus
17. Huanansaurus
18. Mosaiceratops
19. Pulanesaura
20. Zhenyuanlong

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:31 AM David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at> wrote:

Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 um 17:24 Uhr
Von: "Mickey Mortimer" <mickey_mortimer111@msn.com>
Betreff: [dinosaur] Validity of "Yunyangosaurus" / is Scientific Reports published physically?

> Hi all.  While writing the "Yunyangosaurus" entry for The Theropod Database, I noticed Dai et al.'s (2020) paper describing it has no mention of ZooBank.  ICZN Article 8.5.3. states names published electronically must "be registered in the Official Register of Zoological Nomenclature (ZooBank) (see Article 78.2.4) and contain evidence in the work itself that such registration has occurred."  So this obviously fails, and the name doesn't show up in ZooBank either.  Normally that solves itself eventually by the physical publication of the journal volume, but "Yunyangosaurus" was described in Scientific Reports.  As far as I can tell, Scientific Reports has no actual volumes,  just a huge list of articles every year, which would suggest it is not physically published.  Is this so?  And if so, doesn't that indicate that Dai et al. 2020 will never be valid under the ICZN and that something else needs to be done by the authors to fix this?

According to its website, Scientific Reports has an online ISSN, but a paper ISSN is nowhere mentioned. This means that, as expected, it is published exclusively online, and that the name "Yunyangosaurus" is not available from the publication by Dai et al. (2020) or any other that yet exists.

"Not available" means the ICZN doesn't recognize it as even existing. It does not compete for synonymy or homonymy.

So, the ethical thing to do is to alert the authors that they need to publish a whole new paper. In that paper, they can say "Diagnosis: see Dai et al. (2020)", so the paper can be quite short, but it needs to be a whole new publication.