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Re: The fungi did it



Don't forget the problems affiliated with silicosis from ash inhalation as well as carbon particles from the fires. The massive number animals with lung disease in the years following the impactor must have been made much more miserable by any other factors present as well. Fungi is opportunistic in its approach so secondary infections would be a likely course of progress. Big animals inhale large amounts of air through respiration and thus become big air filters. Smaller organisms may not have suffered as much. It makes sense to me that Fungi was no fun. Gee. ;-)

In my experience with reptiles, most are very vulnerable to fungal infection. Any abrasion can lead to life threatening conditions. Birds are somewhat similar with respiratory issues but not as much with skin and mouth. Having dealt with many parrots in my life, I am surprised as sensitive as birds are to any negative environmental change or stressor, that any of them made it through the hard times.

Obviously food chain interruptions, fungal infections, other disease, climate change etc, etc, etc, all played a roll affecting animals that were well niched into their ecological role. Those that were predisposed to survive under the adverse conditions survived. I think the whole answer is not specific, but has to do with many causes some accumulative, some species specific. Given the enormity of the planet and the overall effects on the surface of a large impactor, all bad things that could happen, no doubt did happen.
Frank Bliss
MS Biostratigraphy
Weston, Wyoming
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:32 PM, don ohmes wrote:


Any specific mention in the PDF of effects on eggs or
hatchlings?

--- David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at> wrote:

An article from earlier this year which I just
came across:

Casadevall, A. 2005. Fungal virulence, vertebrate
endothermy, and dinosaur
extinction: is there a connection? Fungal Genetics
and Biology 42 (2):
98-106.

The prepublished online abstract was mentioned onlist, and I contacted the author in a heroic ;-) attempt to prevent publication. Arturo Casadevall was so kind as to send me a complete pdf so that I could understand his points better. A short discussion ensued. In sum, it seems plausible to me that the fungal spike, a known consequence of the impact, could well have contributed to the extinction of dinosaurs and could even help explain why dinosaurs were hit harder than mammals... even though it's practically impossible to test.

"Fungi are relatively rare causes of
life-threatening systemic disease in
immunologically intact mammals despite being
frequent pathogens in
insects,
amphibians, and plants.

Often the same species of mould can produce disease in all those and more victims.

Given that virulence is a complex trait, the
capacity of certain soil fungi to infect, persist,
and cause disease in
animals despite no apparent requirement for animal
hosts in replication or
survival presents a paradox. In recent years
studies with amoeba, slime
molds, and worms have led to the proposal that
interactions between fungi
and other environmental microbes, including
predators, select for
characteristics that are also suitable for
survival in animal hosts.

An interesting finding!

Given
that most fungal species grow best at ambient
temperatures, the high body
temperature of endothermic animals must provide a
thermal barrier for
protection against infection with a large number
of fungi.

Hurray! A selective advantage of endothermy plus
homeothermy! :-)

Fungal disease is relatively common in birds but
most are
caused by only a few thermotolerant species. [...]
Deforestation and
proliferation of fungal spores at
cretaceous­tertiary boundary suggests
that
fungal diseases could have contributed to the
demise of dinosaurs and the
flourishing of mammalian species."

If we assume that all dinosaurs were as susceptible as modern birds to infections with large amounts of fungal spores.

- Fungal diseases are rare in endotherms
compared to ectotherms,
perhaps
due to greater resistance.

First and foremost due to higher body temperature.

- Widespread deforestation after the K-T
boundary led to a sizable
increase in fungi in the environment (all that
lovely dead vegetation to
grow on), which would have resulted in greater
risk of infection from
facultative parasites. (Note for the
phylogenetically-retentive: Fungi
seems
to be used in this paper in the old sense of the
name, covering everything
from slime moulds to oomycetes to fungi proper
:-S)

Really? Slime moulds and oomycetes don't infect
animals, do they? (And isn't
there only one clade of the polyphyletic slime
moulds that is pathogenic at
all?)

- Endotherms survive better than ectotherms
(see above), therefore
birds
and mammals survive but ectothermic dinosaurs
don't.

Here there is a problem. I haven't been able to
convince Arturo of the
evidence for widespread endothermy in nonavian
dinosaurs. (Should have
mentioned sauropods, for instance.) Still, the
higher susceptibility of
birds than mammals is interesting.

Remember:
   Lizards! Some one on the list recently pointed
out that there are more
living species of lizard than there are mammals,
even leaving out the
snakes, which are phylogenetically speaking an
idiosyncratic form of
lizard.
So how come ectothermic lizards did so swimmingly?
Not to mention
crocodiles, which aren't too different in size
from at least a smaller
dinosaur.

Oh yes. I fear I forgot them, too. How easily do they get fungal infections? What about turtles (which have a higher metabolic rate -- they can't run away, so they can't thermoregulate as easily by behaviour)?

No mention, of course, of all the marine
organisms
that lost their place at the table.

Eh, all that mould isn't supposed to _replace_ the impact. As we've read in Science a year or two ago, it's a _consequence_ of the impact.

Perhaps saddest of all, this article received a
favourable editorial in
the lastest issue of Mycological Research (under
the title "Did pathogenic
fungi contribute to dinosaur extinction?"). It
concludes "While the
hypothesis is difficult to test... The idea merits
floating in all basic
mycology courses, where it is sure to generate
interest and debate".

By people who know even less about dinosaurs!?! :-S