Re: Iguanodon(?) sp. and Jixiangornis

["Nick Gardner" <ratites637@hotmail.com>]

David Marjanovic wrote-
> > The preserved ulna is a 25.5 cm long bone. In lateral view, its 
> posterior
> > margin is right[?]
>
> Straight.
>
> > If the two bones described previously are clearly identifiable like
>
> As.
>
> > pertaining to Iguanodontidae, [...]

Thanks for the corrections, I didn't translate this myself, I used Babel 
Fish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/).  I was having trouble trying to get 
those two sentences... they didn't make much sense.

> > known in the higher Cretaceous (Campanien and Maastrichtien) of Western
> > Europe. Although it is present in many European layers [ 1, 4, 11, 15,
> 27 ],
> > its membership of Iguanodontidae only was recently suggested [ 29 ].
>
> What's that ref?

M. Pincemulle, 1997.  Un ornithopode du Cretace superieur de Vitrolles 
(Bouches-du-Rhone): Rhabdodon priscus. memoire de DEA, universite 
Montpellier-2, 1997 (non publie)

I guess it's some sort of unpublished thesis?

> > Ji Qiang, Ji Shu[']an, Zhang Hongbin, You Hailu,
> > Zhang Jianping, Wang Lixia, Yuan Changri,
>
> Chongxi.

Thanks, it looked like Changri in the scans I have of the paper.

> > the antorbital fenestra has not been lost.
>
> Birds never lose it. Though in derived birds it is connected to the
> orbit. -- The authors label both the aof and the naris "antorbital
> fenestra".

Oops, I guess that isn't as significant as I thought.


> Now a kind soul sent me a scan of the paper, and I still can't see the 
> keel.
> :-( The skull looks, superficially, quite oviraptorosaurian.

You can see it in the figures though, but I guess they might be doubtful.  I 
can see very little in the photographs.  I agree about the skull.  It 
reminds me of the original reconstructions of *Caudipteryx*.


> > Only III-3 and the ungual [are preserved] as far as the phalanges go for
> manual digit III.
>
> The rest could be hidden underneath digit II.

Well, I didn't say they were absent, I thought it was understood that the 
others weren't preserved, I see now I wasn't very clear.

Nick Gardner

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