Re: [dinosaur] Non-avian dinosaurs all extinct

[Paul P <turtlecroc@yahoo.com>]

If there were any sauropods, the natives ate them years ago. (if you've ever 
been to a meat market in West Africa, you know what I'm talking about...) 

Unfortunately the Dark Continent isn't as mysterious as it was a hundred years 
ago, but it's still great fodder for movies. You can't prove a negative, so 
there's at least a slight chance that somewhere, someplace east of Cameroon, in 
a remote area of the escarpment, giant reptiles remain.... 

Evidence and logic be damned.


On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 07:31:52 AM CDT, Thomas Richard Holtz 
<tholtz@umd.edu> wrote:

The form of the argument is incorrect.

It isn't that there is absolutelyÂno possibility whatsoever that sauropods and 
ceratopsids COULD be present. In principle there is nothing to prevent them.

But that isn't how we determine if something exists or not. To do that, we have 
to actually have EVIDENCE that it does. And we are utterly lacking in 
reasonable evidence for extant ceratopsids and sauropods, or indeed such 
animals anytime in the last 66 million years.

So the time to accept they do exist is when the proponents of the idea put 
forth some serious evidence, not before.

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 1:40 AM Poekilopleuron <dinosaurtom2015@seznam.cz> 
wrote:
Good day!

Recently I saw a discussion about the possibilities of non-avian dinosaurs 
still living in certain parts of the world (so called cryptids, like mysterious 
Mokele-mbembe). Of course this is a nonsense, but some people are very adamant 
in this case. So I would like to ask, what would be your most important 
arguments for the fact, that there can actually be NO recent sauropods and 
ceratopsids in Central Africa, etc.? Thank you very much, in advance! Tom


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