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Re: [dinosaur] Ye old Marsh Scelidosaurus skeletal ref




Ben Creisler
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I had a feeling there was an earlier source, but the Smithsonian post onlyÂmentioned The Dinosaurs of North America. Based on Hay 1902, it appears that the November 1895 American Journal of Science article would be the earliest publication, although it was reproduced in a number of other publications in 1896. Sorry for not checking this last night...


Marsh, O.C., 1895. Restoration of some European dinosaurs with suggestions as to their place among the Reptilia. American Journal of Science 50 (series 3), 407â412.

Here's what Marsh says (pg. 410):

Scelidosaurus. (Plate VI.)
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The second of these restorations is that of Scelidosaurus Harrisonii, of Owen, shown natural size in the diagram. This reptile was an herbivorous Dinosaur of moderate size, related to Stegosaurus, and was its predecessor from a lower geological horizon in England. This restoration is essentially based upon the original description and figures of Owen (Palae- ontographical Society, 1861). These have been supplemented by my own notes and sketches, made during examinations of the type specimen, now in the British Museum.

Scelidosaurus is a near relative, as it were, of one of our American forms, Stegosaurus, now represented by so many specimens that we know the skull, skeleton, and dermal armor, with much certainty. The English form known as Omosaurus is still more nearly allied to Stegosaurus, perhaps identical.

A restoration of the skeleton of Scelidosaurus, by Dr. Henry Woodward, will be found in the British Museum Guide to Geology and Palaeontology, 1890, p. 19. The missing parts are restored from Iguanodon, and the animal is represented as bipedal, as in that genus.
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Restoration of some European dinosaurs with suggestions as to their place among the Reptilia


Full text with plates:

https://archive.org/details/b22321937

Pdf version

https://ia801301.us.archive.org/26/items/b22321937/b22321937.pdf




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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 6:16 AM Thomas Richard Holtz <tholtz@umd.edu> wrote:
Cool. Yes, I forgot about the second Marsh 1895 one (which I even have a copy of somewhere....)!!

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:03 AM Stephen Poropat <stephenfporopat@gmail.com> wrote:
And in this one:

Marsh, O.C., 1895. On the affinities and classification of dinosaurian reptiles. American Journal of Science 50 (series 3), 483â498.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 00:00, Stephen Poropat <stephenfporopat@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm... it does seem to be in this slightly older paper also:

Marsh, O.C., 1895. Restoration of some European dinosaurs with suggestions as to their place among the Reptilia. American Journal of Science 50 (series 3), 407â412.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 23:17, Thomas Richard Holtz <tholtz@umd.edu> wrote:
Correct. I know it is in Marsh 1896 but do not believe it was around prior to this.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:12 AM Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:

Ben Creisler

I believe it was first published in Marsh's 1896 Dinosaurs of North America, Plate LXXXIII (83):


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For more info on Marsh's original drawing of Scelidosaurus, see this Smithsonian webpage:


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On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 7:53 PM Gregory Paul <gsp1954@aol.com> wrote:
I have not been able to track down the original reference for the classic Marsh restoration of Scelidosaurus --Âhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Scelidosaurus_skeleton.jpg

If any knows what it is please let me know.Â

GSPaul


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Mailing Address:ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
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