Thanks for updating me on that. As usual, more fossils would be helpful to clear this up. The fact that we have true-blue Maastrichtian galloanserans but not the paleognaths and neoavians that must have been present should be a continuing impetus for further
discoveries.
Thomas Yazbeck
From: dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu <dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu> on behalf of David Äernà <david.cerny1@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:29 PM To: dinosaur-l@usc.edu <dinosaur-l@usc.edu> Subject: Re: [dinosaur] What is the earliest known bird Those divergence time estimates are all obsolete, though. Modern node-dating studies (e.g., Jarvis et al. 2014; Claramunt & Cracraft 2015; Cracraft et al. 2015; Prum et al. 2015; Kimball et al. 2019; Kuhl et al. 2020) generally agree that the
neoavian radiation took place mostly and possibly entirely after the K/Pg boundary (so no Cretaceous gruiforms or charadriiforms), and date the pan-anseriform/pan-galliform split to no earlier than the Maastrichtian. In fact, instead of the implausibly old
age estimates you are alluding to, you now occasionally get the opposite problem where some of the divergences end up being younger than the fossil record allows. For example, the Prum et al. tree places the pan-anseriform/pan-galliform divergence close to
the Paleocene/Eocene boundary, long after Teviornis, Asteriornis, or even Conflicto. This has been referred to as the "zombie lineage" problem by Springer et al. (2017).
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