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Re: [dinosaur] DAWNDINOS -- Early Dinosaur Locomotion (videos)




Ben Creisler
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I think there was some misunderstanding here over my comment about more "substance" in the DAWNDINO online videos. My intent was I was not to compare them to a nationally broadcast PBS television show, which is something completely different. I was thinking of the many short videos that are currently being posted online by museums and institutions (Museum of the Rockies, Royal Tyrrell Museum, etc.), which I have posted to the DML as well. These short videos seem mainly done as a way to keep in touch with the public or as part of online teaching (or entertainment) for school kids stuck at home. While these videos are appreciated and enjoyable, they are often a bit light on science and substance for adult paleontology buffs on the DML.

There is currently a spectrum in terms of depth of content for online only videos that are posted by museums and educational institutions.Â

I have enjoyed the popular PBS Eons online videos, which are generally accurate and informative, but intentionally avoid some of the more technical details.Â

By contrast, there are online talks from official meetings that are often highly technical with content not always easily accessible to non-specialists.

The Royal Tyrrell Museum speaker series talks (suspended because of the pandemic) have nearly always hit the sweet spot between substantial content and need for more technical knowledge, and I more than often learn something I didn't know or didn't understand in detail before, especially for non-dino presentations. I think the DAWNDINO videos also hit this sweet spot. There are also interviews with experts online that often provide substantial information on paleo topics. Â

To the racism issue, I am currently working on a post for the DML and VertPaleo list about generic and specific names that honor earlier paleontologists and other researchers who have legacies of racism, eugenics, and other objectionable ideas (including Georges Cuvier, Louis Agassiz, Edward Drinker Cope, Henry Fairfield Osborn, etc.).

For example, I was taken aback to see the newly published fish taxon Agassizilia in the August 2020 issue of Cretaceous Research, named in "honour of Swiss palaeontologist and pioneering palaeoichthyologist Louis R. Agassiz" for his work on fossil fishes.

As people should be aware, Agassiz (famous for recognizing the ice ages and as an opponent of evolution and Darwin) was also a virulent racist who argued that different races had been created separately, with superior and inferior races, justifying slavery. He conducted "scientific" studies on black slaves from plantations in South Carolina in 1850 to show the inferiority of Africans, using daguerreotype photography that included people shown completely naked and displayed more like animals.

In recent years, there have been many efforts in both Switzerland and the United States to remove statues and other monuments representing Agassiz and to change place names originally meant to honor him. There was also a lawsuit against Harvard for displaying Agassiz's slave photos without permission of the living relatives of the people depicted.

To completely ignore his appalling legacy outside of paleontology and name a new fish Âto "honor" Agassiz is major disconnect with recent developments such as the renaming of the journal Copeia to Ichthyology and Herpetology, based on Edward Drinker Cope's published racist, white supremacist, and sexist views against full rights for African Americans and for women. I've also posted some recent news stories and blogs about efforts to remove items and names honoring slaveholding early paleontologist Henry De La Beche.Â

Unfortunately, zoological names, once validly published, are forever--unlike names of journals, organizations, institutions, buildings, or official prizes, which can always be changed. Paleontology will have to stomach Agassizilia.


Samuel L.A. Cooper and David M. Martill (2020)
A diverse assemblage of pycnodont fishes (Actinopterygii, Pycnodontiformes) from the mid-Cretaceous, continental Kem Kem Group of south-east Morocco.
Cretaceous Research 112: 104456
doi: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cretres.2020.104456
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195667120300136


Pycnodont fishes (Actinopterygii, Pycnodontiformes) contributed a major role to many ichthyological assemblages in the Mesozoic, however their occurrence in the continental mid-Cretaceous Kem Kem Group of Morocco was only briefly noted by Sereno et al., 1996, but were not described. Here we describe the first diverse pycnodont assemblage in the Kem Kem beds of the Tafilalt region, based mainly on recent collecting. Pycnodont remains are represented by rare, mostly incomplete fragments of vomerine and prearticular dentitions, but despite their rarity, they are surprisingly diverse with four morphotypes represented, including two new taxa: Neoproscinetes africanus sp. nov. and Agassizilia gen. nov. From a sample of eight specimens, four species are recorded, three of which are new. The palaeoecology, taphonomy and biostratinomy of the specimens is discussed in the context of their occurrence in a predominantly freshwater sequence. Comparisons are made with the pycnodont assemblage of the approximately coeval Santana Group (Brazil) which contains taxa with similarities to the new Moroccan pycnodonts. These new pycnodont taxa increase the already diverse assemblage of the Kem Kem Group ichthyofauna.

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:44 AM Hutchinson, John <JHutchinson@rvc.ac.uk> wrote:

I thank Ben for the mention of our videos, on which Emily Keeble worked hard to produce with my team. However, I am uncomfortable with any comparison between the very science-focused (and sciencey-audience targeted) nature of our videos âvs.â other modes of science communication.

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In particular, the goals of Emily Graslieâs âPrehistoric Road Tripâ, a series that I have loved and feel is one of the best in recent years, are different, so I feel uncomfortable with any implication (intentional or not) that our videos have more âsubstanceâ than hers or othersâ. Indeed, what makes Graslieâs programmes so effective is their combination of science content and earnestly personal, emotional, enthusiastic substanceâsomething that works well with the general public, which is why they are on public television. Our videos are made for a rather different purpose; I do not think it is fair to compare âsubstanceâ. Diverse approaches to science communication are what the world needs. I wanted to clarify my opinion on that since I now feel drawn into a broader matter on the list.

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On a closely related matter- Iâve been on the Dinosaur email list for about 25 years now; all of my career; and in the past 2 months Iâve seen the very worst behaviour Iâve ever seen here. All manner of racism, sexism, white saviourism, and other bigotry. The past few days have scraped the bottom of the barrel. I am disgusted and I condemn many of the comments by a couple of posters. I can understand it somewhat through the lens of the hard times and feelings of anger and isolation that the pandemic and BLM and more have all put us through, and how this has taken a toll on mental health or led to a perceived need for lashing out and juvenile trolling. But even with that understanding I feel I must speak out that I feel it is totally inappropriate behaviour. I am saddened. I will not address the individual points but I felt I had to express that some of the list (minus the main troublemaker that departed already) could take a deep breath and return to the science.

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-Professor John R Hutchinson

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Ben Creisler

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Videos not yet mentioned about early dinosaur and archosaur locomotion (for people who want videos with a bit more substance)...

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DAWNDINOSÃ


Video 1: The Locomotor Superiority Hypothesis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZR96Y5Rgr4


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Video 2: Origins of the Locomotor Superiority Hypothesis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXwx4aIaTA


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Video 3: An Opposing Hypothesis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__SkJycknSw

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Video 4: Thinking Twice


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMJgFbX0FHo&t=10s

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