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The profound differences between the two programs reflect the broader differences between PBS and Discovery. Public television has always produced quality educational programs while commercial TV continues to produce lowest-common-denominator trash. Public/government
TV & radio stations (PBS, BBC, NPR, CBC..) are probably the best allies science has in mass media; when you make programs for profit, ethics goes out the window.
Tom Yazbeck
From: dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu <dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu> on behalf of Terry Davis Jr <tyrannosaurtj@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:12 PM
To: dinosaur-l@mymaillists.usc.edu <dinosaur-l@mymaillists.usc.edu>
Subject: RE: [dinosaur] Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts
As an average lay-person watching Prehistoric Road Trip, I found it inspiring and way better than a lot of things we’ve gotten that there’s been executive
meddling in over the years. The show is definitely socially progressive in a lot of ways I felt while watching. Not to mention I get Emily’s passion and frankly I can relate to it as well. It has heart and that’s really important with outreach to get people
interested and see it’s accessible to all. People need to find a way to relate to these things to open their mind and I think the show does a fantastic job of doing this.
If you want to file a diversity complaint, there’s absolutely no argument here with Prehistoric Road Trip when the bigger offender for lack of diversity is that pile of crap that’s a love letter to fossil poaching that Discovery is trying to pass off as a dinosaur
documentary, Dino Hunters. It’s all older Caucasian men talking about how much wealth they’re going to get while doing poor excavation techniques that harm the fossil and all relevant data in collecting it as well as making it harder for actual science to
be done. You should be more outraged by this atrocity because it can’t even get what facts it tries to pass off in it even remotely right. Dino Hunters is the show you should be outraged and having this poorly aimed conniption fit over and not Prehistoric
Road Trip. If you want to be outraged about something, be outraged at that atrocity that Discovery Channel has given us.
From: dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu [mailto:dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu]
On Behalf Of Wayne Callahan
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 7:55 PM
To: Mike Habib; Thomas Richard Holtz
Cc: dinosaur-l@mymaillists.usc.edu
Subject: Re: [dinosaur] Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts
I guess the pandemic is really getting to us. Let's start acting like professional scientists and give up this thread. Doesn't this list have a moderator?
I know the vertpaleo list used to...
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dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu <dinosaur-l-request@mymaillists.usc.edu> on behalf of Thomas Richard Holtz <tholtz@umd.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 7:30 PM
To: Mike Habib <biologyinmotion@gmail.com>
Cc: dinosaur-l@mymaillists.usc.edu <dinosaur-l@mymaillists.usc.edu>
Subject: Re: [dinosaur] Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts
And something just occurred to me...
If they only saw episode one, why is this thread named after episode 3??
Episode 1: Welcome to Fossil Country
Episode 2: We Dig Dinosaurs
Episode 3: Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Creatures
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 3:09 PM, aviva <aviva@gmx.us> wrote:
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> On 7/20/20 1:41 PM, Mike Habib wrote:
>> Just to clarify… are you honestly aggrieved that there were too many paleontologists in a paleontology documentary?
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> I think what I said was clear, and not what you wrote. We are getting
> deep into dishonest propositions now. How are you going to defend the
> science from creationists if folks behave like this when confronted with
> a simple factual complaint about the purpose and characterization of a
> documentary when the facts are already admitted to?
Well, that depends. Are you referring to angry, irrational, aggressive creationists who make no sense at all and have no basis for their arguments in the first place? In those cases, I bait them with mockeries of their own pathetic complaints, phrased as questions,
and watch them dig themselves into even deeper holes than they started.
But it’s a case by case scenario.
—MBH
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Phone: 301-405-4084
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Office: Geology 4106, 8000 Regents Dr., College Park MD 20742
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