Re: SV: papers for archive.org

[Paul P <turtlecroc@yahoo.com>]

> Furthermore it is almost always possible to open later
> versions of pdf with earlier versions of Adobe Reader

I regularly encounter PDFs that *require* version 6 or 7. 
Not sure why because they are just text. Unless you remember 
to *change* the export settings when creating a PDF, newer 
versions of Acrobat (and other PDF creaters) will export 
the latest (i.e. less compatible) version by default. 

For example, some of the recent JVP supplements *will not 
open* in Acrobat Reader 5 (or earlier). They're just text 
and tables (which may in fact just be images). 


--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Tommy Tyrberg <tommy.tyrberg@norrkoping.mail.telia.com> 
wrote:

> From: Tommy Tyrberg <tommy.tyrberg@norrkoping.mail.telia.com>
> Subject: SV: papers for archive.org
> To: turtlecroc@yahoo.com, dinosaur@usc.edu
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:02 PM
>
> I don't see this as a problem since
> you can choose in Acrobat Distiller
> which version of PDF to create. I usually use 1.5 (=Acrobat
> 5.0
> compatible). This is quite adequate for all normal needs
> and it is very
> unlikely that anyone still uses an earlier version than
> that.
> Furthermore it is almost always possible to open later
> versions of pdf
> with earlier versions of Adobe Reader. You get a warning
> that all
> features may not display correctly, but there is rarely any
> actual
> problems.
> 
> Tommy Tyrberg
> 
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> Skickat: den 27 april 2010 19:53
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> 
> The latest version of Acrobat Reader for Mac OS9 is v5. 
> No, not too many people using OS9 anymore, even though 
> it is impervious to computer viruses and has tons of 
> excellent free software available, but still, nothing 
> should need a version of AR later than 4 or 5. 
> 
> The real problem is that Adobe has made an industry out 
> of updating Acrobat Reader and they have a vested interest
> 
> in seeing the latest version constant
downloaded. Then 
> they set the default exporter in *Acrobat* to make any 
> exported PDF--even if it's just plain text--*require* 
> the very latest version of Acrobat Reader. etc. 
> 
> This is known as "western ingenuity" or "the free market".
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Richard W. Travsky <rtravsky@uwyo.edu>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Richard W. Travsky <rtravsky@uwyo.edu>
> > Subject: Re: papers for archive.org
> > To: dinosaur@usc.edu
> > Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 9:43 AM
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, David Marjanovic wrote:
> > > Rescued from truncation:
> > >
> > >>  Who scans and uploads papers to
> > archive.org..? As far as i can
> > >>  tell,=20 anyone can.=A0 SO, if you're
> going
> > to do this, please make
> > >>  your PDF=20 compatible with Acrobat
> Reader 5
> > or later (or better yet,
> > >>  AR4 or=20 later).=20
> > >>
> > >>  "Portable document format" doesn't
> mean
> > anything when you have to=20
> > >>  keep downloading the latest version of
> > Acrobat reader. It's idiotic
> > >>  to=20 make a PDF that requires Acrobat
> > Reader 6 or later. Thanks.=20
> > >>
> > >>  Paul P.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, I disagree. Acrobat Reader is free,
> so
> > you _can_ simply
> > > download the latest version (currently 8). Or do
> the
> > newer versions not
> > 
> > Actually, 9.something  ;)
> > 
> > > work on all operating systems?
> > >
> > > That said, pdfs of scientific papers are rather
> > unlikely to require
> > > features that weren't yet available in version
> 3.
> > 
> > Yes and no. I've seen a couple folks here have
> problems
> > downloading with  older versions of the Adobe
> reader.
> > 
> 
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