Re: Feather Flap

[Andreas Johansson <andreasj@gmail.com>]

On 6/5/07, evelyn sobielski <koreke77@yahoo.de> wrote:
> --- Andreas Johansson <andreasj@gmail.com> schrieb:
>
> > On 6/5/07, evelyn sobielski <koreke77@yahoo.de>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > other feathered dinosaurs.  Hopefully more on
> > that
> > > > at SVP this year...
> > >
> > > Senter for the matter finds _Epidendrosaurus_ to
> > be
> > > close to Archie with decent support, with support
> > for
> > > Archie in and _E._ out of Aves not entirely
> > > satisfactory. Which of course only marginally
> > reflects
> > > upon _Patagopteryx_, but still...
> >
> > Which definition of Aves?
>
> Any that is reasonably accepted (i.e. not beyond the
> node uniting Archie with crown Aves). Senter finds
> robust support for Ornithurae monophyly, but beyond
> that things become more fuzzy. There is the
> possibility that Sereno's Aves would have to include
> _Epidendrosaurus_ too (given that it postdates Archie
> and its Jurassic ancestor is not known).

Not to belabor the obvious, but you can't *find* Archie to be inside
Archie+Neornithes.

I suppose the take-home message then is that _Epidendrosaurus_ is
weakly supported as outside, but close to, that clade.

--
Andreas Johansson

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