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Re: Phuwiangosaurus pics?
And that's why I'm looking for a skeletal restoration or pictures of the bones,
and so on. I hear it was well represented, even with cranial remains found.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Taylor" <mike@indexdata.com>
> To: lmpm1234@verizonmail.com
> Subject: Re: Phuwiangosaurus pics?
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:02:49 +0000
>
>
> Luis Perez writes:
> > > > Anyone know of any Phuwiangosaurus skeletal images, or pics? I hear
> > > > that this sauropod from Thailand is particularly hard to place in
> > > > the sauropod tree [...]
> > >
> > > That's what was thought when it was first described. Since then,
> > > cladistic analysis of sauropods has come on by leaps and bounds, and
> > > it now seems to be fairly stably established as a basal titanosaurian
> > > -- e.g. Upchurch et al. 2004 (The _Dinosauria_ 2 chapter on sauropods)
> > > recovers it as the most basal titanosaur and therefore close to the
> > > brachiosaurid clade. Don't forget that a _lot_ more titanosaurs are
> > > known now than when _Phuwiangosaurus_ was named, so there's a lot more
> > > context to evaluate it in.
> >
> > Ah, yes, then, this one would resemble something like perhaps
> > Ligabuesaurus or Venenosaurus or something like that, pretty basal?
>
> Perhaps. Trouble is, the whole area around the base of
> Titanosauriformes, Somphospondyli and Titanosauria is rather poorly
> resolved (different analyses get different results in detail), so it's
> not wise to commit too strongly to anything's being particularly
> similar to anything else.
>
> If you want to restore _Phuwiangosaurus_, it would probably be better
> to do it directly from the bones. There are plenty of them: it's
> better represented than most titanosaurs.
>
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