Re: Arambourgiania citation

[Andrew Milner <amilner@sgcity.org>]

Looks like the message I sent from home was truncated over the Dino 
Listserver. Here is what I tired to pass on, and it's completely different 
from what Jerry H. sent out this morning ...

The taxon _Arambourgiania_ was used by Nessov & Jarkov (1989) to replace 
_Titanopteryx_ according to Martill et al. (1998). Maybe your Nessov & 
Borkin (1989) should really by Nessov & Jarkov (1989). References below:

Nessov, L.A. & Jarkov, A.A., 1989. New Cretaceous-Paleogene birds of the 
USSR and some remarks on the origin and evolution of the class Aves. Proc. 
Zoological Inst., Leningrad, USSR Acad. Sci., v. 197, p. 78-97. (in 
Russian).

Martill, D.M., Frey, E., Sadaqah, R.M., & Khoury, H.N., 1998. Discovery of 
the holotype of _Titanopteryx philadelphiae Arambourg 1959, and the status 
of _Arambourgiania_ and _Quetzalcoatlus_. N. Jb. Geol. Palaont. Abh., v. 
207(1), p. 57-76.

Another paper you might want to look at if you haven't already is:

Frey, E. & Martill, D.M., 1996. A reappraisal of _Arambourgiania_ 
(Pterosauria, Pterodactyloidea): one of the world's largest flying animals. 
N. Jb. Geol. Palaont. Abh., v. 199, p. 221-247.

Hope this might help.

Andrew R. C. Milner
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry D. Harris" <jharris@dixie.edu>
To: "DINOSAUR Mailing List" <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Arambourgiania citation


> >What is the citation for the paper in which the genus _Arambourgiania_ 
> >was
> > first published as a replacement for the preoccupied _Titanopteryx_? I 
> > have
> > seen three different citations floating around, one that I have a copy of
> > does not contain any mention of this name, and I have some doubts on the
> > existence
>
>    The correct citation (which I don't have and so can't verify directly) 
> seems to be:
>
> Nessov, L.A., Kanznyshkina, L.F., and Cherepanov, G.O. 1987. Dinosaurs, 
> crocodiles and other archosaurs from the Late mesozoic of central Asia and 
> their place in ecosystems.  Abstracts of the 33rd session of the All-Union 
> Palaeontological Society, Leningrad, pp. 46-47. [In Russian].
>
> This is what is cited in:
>
> Martill, D. M., E. Frey, R. M. Sadaqah, and H. N. Khoury. 1998. Discovery 
> of the holotype of the giant pterosaur Titanopteryx philadelphiae 
> Arambourg 1959, and the status of Arambourgiania and Quetzalcoatlus. Neues 
> Jahrbuch fÃr Geologie unde PalÃontologie Abhandlungen 207:57-78.
>
> However, Nessov himself (ref. #13), in:
>
> Nessov, L. A. 1991. Gigantic pterosaurs of the family Azhdarchidae. I. 
> Morphology and taxonomy. Bulletin of Leningrad University, Series 7, 
> Geology and Geography 2:13-23.
>
> ...cites something in Russian that I can't read -- may or may not be the 
> same thing; it's got the same year, and three authors, but the initials & 
> several letters in the names don't match; no page numbers are given, and 
> the journal name appears to be abbreviated:
>
> ÐÐÑÐÐ Ð.Ð., ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ, Ð.Ð., ÐÑÐÐÐÑÐÐÐÐ, Ð.Ð. ÐÐÐÑÐ ÐÐÑÑÐÐÐÑÐÐÐÐÐÐÑ Ð 
> ÑÐÐÐÐÐÑ ÑÐÑÐÐÑÐÐÐÐÐÑ ÐÐÑÐÐÑÑÑÑ ÑÐÑÑÐÑÐÑÐÐ // ÐÐÐ. ÐÐÐÐ. ÐÑÑÐ. 1987. No. 4.
>
> Thus, I'm not certain what this latter paper is, but if anyone knows 
> and/or has a copy, please let me know!
>
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