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[darren.naish@port.ac.uk: Diplodocimorpha vs Diplodocoidea]



Forwarded with permission from Darren Naish.
Very enlightening.

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Hi Mike

Saw your discussion on DML of Diplodocoidea vs 
Diplodocimorpha. You may or may not find the following 
useful, please post it on DML....

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In coining Diplodocimorpha, Calvo & Salgado (1995) 
wrote (both p. 14 and p. 30) that it was erected to include 
_Rebbachisaurus tessonei_ (= _Rayososaurus tessonei_), 
Diplodocidae (used by them for both diplodocids s. s. and 
dicraeosaurids), and all the descendants of their common 
ancestor. Recent work indicates that _Rayososaurus_ is part 
of a monophyletic Rebbachisauridae, so Diplodocimorpha 
as employed by Calvo & Salgado (1995) = 
(Rebbachisauridae + (Diplodocidae + Dicraeosauridae)). If 
you adhere to PhyloCode rules then Calvo & SalgadoÂs 
(1995) Âincluded taxa section of their paper could be 
regarded as a formal phylogenetic definition of 
Diplodocimorpha.

UpchurchÂs (1995) usage of Diplodocoidea for the 
ostensible diplodocid-dicraeosaurid-nemegtosaurid clade is 
therefore less inclusive (because he didnÂt include 
rebbachisaurids) and Diplodocimorpha and Diplodocoidea 
are arguably not synonymous. While Upchurch 1995 was 
published before Calvo & Salgado 1995 (the former is dated 
as having been accepted in February 1995 and the latter 
appears in an issue dated December 1995), it is less clear 
from Upchurch (1995) whether his discussion of 
Diplodocoidea includes what could unambiguously be 
regarded as a phylogenetic definition. [Note that 
Diplodocoidea is Marsh, 1884 because MarshÂs coining of 
Diplodocidae in that year automatically made him author of 
Diplodocinae and Diplodocoidea were they to be erected in 
the future, even though Upchurch (1995) was first to use 
this name in the published literature. To acknowledge this 
you could write it ÂDiplodocoidea (Marsh, 1884) sensu 
Upchurch, 1995Â, as Carvalho et al. 2003 did.]

However, Wilson & Sereno (1998) regarded 
Diplodocimorpha as synonymous with Diplodocoidea and 
on the subject of the two names write ÂWe use the available 
name Diplodocoidea for this clade (Upchurch, 1995), which 
has been used elsewhere in this manner (Wilson and Smith, 
1996), and which includes two subgroups normally 
accorded familial rank (Dicraeosauridae and Diplodocidae; 
both were placed as subfamilies within Diplodocidae by 
Calvo and Salgado [1995]). (p. 6). This isnÂt a satisfactory 
argument: itÂs sort of saying Âthese two names refer to the 
same group because, well, we say soÂ, BUT if the 
phylogenetic definition proposed by Sereno (1998) is 
employed, then Diplodocoidea is a stem-based taxon that 
incorporates all taxa closer to _Diplodocus_ than to 
_Saltasaurus_: consequently Diplodocimorpha really would 
be redundant. As discussed above though, Calvo & Salgado 
(1995) provided what appears to be a satisfactory 
phylogenetic definition of Diplodocimorpha. Obviously 
though, not everyone regards the first use of a phylogenetic 
definition as important and if this is the case then 
Diplodocoidea Marsh, 1884 clearly has precedence. At 
some stage the community really is going to have to decide 
whether to adopt PT rules or not until then messes like 
this will remain unresolved.

Most recent works on sauropod phylogeny appear to follow 
the line of reasoning employed by Wilson & Sereno. 
Upchurch (1998, 1999) doesnÂt use Diplodocimorpha in 
connection with diplodocoids and Wilson (2002, Fig. 13) 
labels the rebbachisaurid + dicraeosaurid + diplodocid clade 
Diplodocoidea. Leo Salgado of course has continued to use 
Diplodocimorpha (Salgado 1999) as have some other, but 
not all, South American palaeontologists.

So, bottom line: as originally conceived phylogenetically 
(by Calvo & Salgado 1995 and by Upchurch 1995), no, 
Diplodocimorpha and Diplodocoidea were not synonyms. If 
SerenoÂs phylogenetic definition for a stem-based 
Diplodocoidea is followed then, yes, they are. On that note I 
am increasingly finding in my own research (which, believe 
it or not, still goes on from time to time) that SerenoÂs 
definitions are not helpful and create more problems than 
they solve: I therefore advocate that at least some of them 
not be followed. One final comment phylogenetic 
nomenclature is meant to be (in part) about promoting 
stability in taxonomy, and given that more sauropod 
workers are using Diplodocoidea than Diplodocimorpha, 
one could make a good argument that Diplodocoidea 
becomes the favoured term.

Refs --

Calvo, J. O. & Salgado, L. 1995. _Rebbachisaurus tessonei_ 
sp. nov. a new Sauropoda from the Albian-Cenomanian of 
Argentina; new evidence on the origin of the Diplodocidae. 
_Gaia_ 11, 13-33.

Carvalho, I. de Sousa, dos Santos Avilla, L. & Salgado, L. 
2003. _Amazonsaurus maranhensis_ gen. et sp. nov. 
(Sauropoda, Diplodocoidea) from the Lower Cretaceous 
(Aptian-Albian) of Brazil. _Cretaceous Research_ 24, 697-
713.

Salgado, L. 1999. The macroevolution of the 
Diplodocimorpha (Dinosauria; Sauropoda): a 
developmental model. _Ameghiniana_ 36, 203-216.

Upchurch, P. 1995. The evolutionary history of sauropod 
dinosaurs. _Philosophical Transactions of the Royal 
Society, London_ 349 365-390.

- - . 1998. The phylogenetic relationships of sauropod 
dinosaurs. _Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society_ 
124, 43-103.

- - . 1999. The phylogenetic relationships of the 
Nemegtosauridae (Saurischia, Sauropoda). _Journal of 
Vertebrate Paleontology_ 19, 106-125.

Wilson, J. A. 2002. Sauropod dinosaur phylogeny: critique 
and cladistic analysis. _Zoological Journal of the Linnean 
Society_ 136, 217-276.

- - . & Sereno, P. C. 1998. Early evolution and higher-level 
phylogeny of sauropod dinosaurs. _Society of Vertebrate 
Paleontology Memoir_ 5, 68 pp.

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Darren Naish
School of Earth & Environmental Sciences
University of Portsmouth UK, PO1 3QL

http://web.port.ac.uk/departments/sees/staff/NaishD.htm
email: darren.naish@port.ac.uk
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