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Re: Revising Hou et al, 96 (very very long)



From: "Mickey Mortimer" <Mickey_Mortimer111@msn.com>
Reply-To: Mickey_Mortimer111@msn.com
To: <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Subject: Re: Revising Hou et al, 96 (very very long)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:36:18 -0700

Nicholas Gardner wrote-

> >3. opisthopubic pelvis
> Why not split this into three states, like this,
> pelvis: propubic (0) mesopubic (1) opisthopubic pelvis (2) ?

Because I wasn't trying to improve Hou et al.'s analysis by adding
characters or states, just trying to make the states used more accurately
coded.  Also because no taxa in the matrix have a propubic pelvis.

Okay. So for this situation, mesopuby is the plesiomorphic state?

I said no _Mesozoic_ avians have been described
with caudal pleurocoels, some living taxa (eg. Struthio I think) have them.
Microvenator doesn't have them, just Nomingia and caenagnathoids.  Also
found in carcharodontosaurids and perhaps a few other things.

My bad.


> Good. You figured it out. I couldn't. But you have Hesperornis coded as
> "1" when it shouldn't it be "?"...


I don't think I meant to code it that way, but it has pretty damn reduced
hands, wouldn't you say? ;-)

Aren't we supposed to code "?" if the structure is absent? AFAIK, Hesperornis had only a humerus. Maybe I'm wrong.


Nick Gardner
n_gardner637@hotmail.com

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