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Re: Enigmosauria Published (basically)



On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ken Kinman wrote:

> Mike,
>     I think it is premature to assume that these groups form a true clade,
> much less giving it a formal name or cladistic definition.

The first definition I proposed to this list does not assume that
therizinosaurs belong (or caenagnathids or _Caudipteryx_ or _Microvenator_
or anything beside the type specimen of _Oviraptor philoceratops_, for
that matter). It would be up to the researcher to determine whether
therizinosaurs and other taxa (avimimids, maybe?) belong.

The second definition I proposed is automatically invalidated if birds
(or, at least, _Passer_) do belong, so if it is paraphyletic with respect
to _Passer_, it "self-destructs".

Doesn't seem too much to worry about here, and I think some people are
getting tired of saying "the oviraptorosaur-therizinosaur clade".

(I actually kind of like "Enigmodracones" now... well, whatever.)
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