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Re: Details on SVP 2001 Friday talks



Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. wrote-
 
Quite.  Incidentally, even if there were a mid-sized tyrannosaurid in the Hell Creek, it doesn't make a difference to the big pattern we were describing: namely, the extreme taxonomic diversity and even size distribution in the Morrison versus the more restricted taxonomic diversity and very uneven size distribution (all big carnivores being tyrannosaurids) in the Hell Creek, Judith River, and the like.
 
Do you think that the Morrison could simply be much better sampled than virtually any other formation?  I know I have the most theropod taxa listed from it than any other place in my stratigraphy file.  Most Late Cretaceous North American small theropods are known from partial remains so that all troodontids are grouped as Troodon formosus and all "velociraptorine" remains into Saurornitholestes.  Bambiraptor and a few other unnamed taxa are showing us that diversity of the latter is higher than previously thought, which may hold true for other families as well.  It is odd how pretty much all Late Cretaceous large theropods are tyrannosauroids or abelisaurids though.
 
Actually, the Two Medicince Form (which comes out as the sister to Daspletosaurus torosus) is not a particularly long-snouted form.  This is the form considered by Horner et al. (1992) to be transitional between Daspletosaurus and T. rex.
 
Oops.  Which is the "long-snouted" daspletosaur specimen then?
 
David Marjanovic wrote-
 
>> Pleurocoels are absent from all dorsals [...].
> Sounds like a juvenile character. Is it that size-related?
 
I'm pretty certain these were adults.  The absence of pleurocoels from most of the dorsals in ornithomimosaurs seems to eliminate the possibility of size-relatedness.  Plus the small taxa with lots of dorsal pleurocoels, like Saurornitholestes and basal pygostylians...
 
>> Oddly, all metacarpals are subequal in length, with digit I having an especially large ungual.
> Are you sure the hand is not from something else?
 
Well, they are attached to Microraptor specimens with Microraptor autapomorphies (accessory trochantor, very long proximal caudals, etc.).  So basically, yes, quite sure.
 
>> The specimen that was to be named "Huaxiasaurus" (NGMC 98-5-003) from the Lower
>> Yixian Formation at Sihuten, Liaoning Province.
> Why "was to be named"?
> It isn't the Czerkas aye-aye dino, is it?
 
Because they're unsure how much is from one specimen, as well as the identity of various elements placed incorrectly.
No, it's not the aye-aye theropod.
 
>> Another Sinornithosaurus specimen (BI 3-13) is also described.  It is almost complete,
>> preserved in side view.  There are long feathers with rachis on the forelimbs and hindlimbs, >> as well as a 250 millimeter long tail frond.
> So it has wings and a Caudipteryx-like tail???
 
Wings, yes.  I don't know the details of the tail, other than the feathers project that far beyond the tip.  Whether there were also feathers lining the side up to the base, I can't say.
 
Mickey Mortimer