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Re: Details on SVP Thursday talks and posters (Part 1)



 
I actually can't recall anyone else who's suggested abelisaurids are closest to megalosaurids/torvosaurids, though relations to carcharodontosaurids and spinosaurids have been suggested.
I thought Czerkas & Czerkas (big book, 1990?) had based their family tree of dinosaurs on something widely accepted... never mind. For some time (later) megalosaurids were repeatedly regarded as possible ceratosaurs, though.
> Based on probably totally different (and probably much fewer) characters (and not actually a
> cladogram, as not run through a computer), but strangely similar, isn't it? :-)
 
Correcting a few characters...
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"15 *Archaeopteryx* has the famous constriction, but does someone know about, say, *Sinornis*?"
Sinornis has very poorly preserved crania, but Cathayornis and the Spanish nestling have constricted roots.
(When I wrote that I had forgotten your Details on Boluochia which also has such teeth.)
"16 In *Yandangornis* the entire fused metatarsus is narrowed in the middle
and more proximally. Therefore I gave it 1, even though mt III is expanded
at its proximal end. Entire foot of Pygostylia coded after a very good photo
*Confuciusornis* (I haven't had a good look at a real specimen for months,
but that will come)."
I disagree.  Yandangornis and Confuciusornis have broad proximal mtIII's and their metatarsi are not especially narrow proximally, even if that were the same character.
Not "especially" narrow, but in the latter it looks a bit like in Deinonychus. The former is of course difficult to argue, as it's completely fused...
Just seen a Dinornis metatarsus (mt III quite narrow and plantarly displaced proximally), but of course that's rather irrelevant for basal pygostylians.
And the result is.....
that I must add a *LOT* more characters. Incredible polytomies, and Archaeopteryx far away from everything -- not beautiful. Answers the question why there are only 200- and 300-character matrices in recent published analyses. Thanks a lot! :-)
 
How widespread are fused nasals outside tyrannosauroids and oviraptorids? (Though this character would certainly add noise only.)
 
Is it ACCTRAN, DELTRAN or nothing? Does changing this setting change the outcome?
-+-Ornithomimosauria
 `-+-Troodontidae
   `-+-Microraptor
     `-Rahonavis
Wow, strange. Didn't you get such an assemblage once too?
   |-Oviraptoridae
   `-+-Segnosauria
     `-+-Alvarezsauridae
       `-+-Avimimus
         `-Pygostylia
The pulling effect of the "-" for the pygostyle in Segnosauria? <fear>
Yandangornis [...] was deleted to minimize MPT's
Does something happen when Bagaraatan is deleted?
> > * CBL basically is the same as FABL
 
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Thanks too!