bacteria, dinosaurs, and man

["Ken Kinman" <kinman@hotmail.com>]

David,
    Even if you don't agree that Metabacteria ("Archaea") evolved from 
bacteria (but believe it or not, even Woese briefly admitted this in the 
journal Science in 1990)--- it is still undeniable that our mitochondria are 
descendants of Eubacteria (Class Proteobacteracea).  And our peroxisomes are 
also descendants of Eubacteria (probably Class Posibacteracea).  Some go 
even farther than I do, and believe the host eukaryotic cell was also 
eubacterial (and only the nucleus is metabacterial).
     And if I am correct about metabacteria, they too evolved from 
eubacteria, and our eukaryotic cells are each a highly-evolved little 
community of eubacterial descendants.  And I am far from alone in believing 
that metabacteria ("archaea"; "archaebacteria") are eubacterial descendants 
(Thomas Cavalier-Smith has published mountains of evidence on this).  But 
there is admittedly skepticism about the timing, my claim that they arose up 
to a billion years later than the eubacteria (but even if they arose a mere 
ten million years after eubacteria, they would still be eubacterial 
descendants, just as surely as birds are reptile descendants).
     When a dinosaur or human got (gets) a bacterial infection, the invader 
is fighting against a highly sophisticated community made up of its distant 
eubacterial cousins.  Being a conglomeration of bacterial descendants, we 
eukaryotes definitely did evolve from bacteria.
                 -----Ken Kinman
P.S.  Not to mention that Lynn Margulis believes eukaryotic flagella/cilia 
evolved from spirochaetes (also eubacteria).  But I have strong doubts about 
that theory.
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> From: "David Marjanovic"
> > If man evolved from bacteria,
>
> We didn't (if we don't agree with HP Ken Kinman, that is, and I don't know
> most of his evidence). Eucarya (or -k-?) + Archaea is considered the sister
> group to Bacteria.
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