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Re: Fw: Scleromochlus




David and David,
Scleromochlus has dorsal body armor??? That does put a whole new spin on things.
But does it have croc-normal ankles? If not, I can't see it as being a Suchian.
Any possibility it could be a stem-group in a line leading to Ornithosuchidae (before developing the diastema and other synapomorphies of that group)?
--------Ken
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From: "David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
Reply-To: david.marjanovic@gmx.at
To: "The Dinosaur Mailing List" <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Subject: Fw: Scleromochlus
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:13:57 +0200

Yet another idea of what *Scleromochlus* is... (who'd have thought it may be
a croc, sensu latissimo?)


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Peters" <pterosaurs@earthlink.net>
To: <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:01 PM
Subject: re: Scleromochlus


> Dear David, > > I understand that Scleromochlus is a *bitch* to interpret. I have never > seen it. Benton (1999) provided the most recent figures of it... and > those convinced me (but I could not convince him) that it is a basal > Suchian, most closely related to Gracilisuchus (Romer 1972), an early > biped from that clade. The temporal region would be important to have, > because the quadrate would lean forward, but it is too poorly preserved > to interpret. > > The skull is wide and low (a clincher!). The AOF is deep and sharply > ridged dorsally. The skull sutures are all a good match. The neck is > short. The scapula is small. The pelvis is similar in nearly all > respects, but the sacral count is higher in Scleromochlus. Dorsal armor > is present (a clincher!). Hemal spines are normal (= non-pterosaurian). > The carpals are absent. The manus is small. The fifth pedal digit is > reduced to a spike (a clincher!). Scleromochlus is simply more derived > (and a better biped), except in the tarsus. Gracilisuchus has fewer > tarsal elements, but the calcaneum with a well-developed heel is in > there. > > Share this with the list if you wish. > > David Peters



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