RE: Tarbosaur/Tyrannosaur-Velocirapter/Saurantholestes ???

["Tracy L. Ford" <dino.hunter@home.com>]

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dinosaur@usc.edu [mailto:owner-dinosaur@usc.edu]On Behalf Of
Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:05 AM
To: Dinogeorge@aol.com; dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: RE: Tarbosaur/Tyrannosaur-Velocirapter/Saurantholestes ???
*
*
With all due respect, George, I have spent time with the specimens, looking
at the real fossils from multiple angles, picking them up, etc.  I've spent
a damn site more time looking at the gross morphology (and, more to the
point, the detailed morphology) of the specimens than most on this list, you
included.<<
*
* Tarbosaurs? Great.

George, don't you think it a least bit curious that Maleev AND Paul AND
Bakker AND Russell AND Carpenter <<

I always wondered about  his, did Ken go over to Mongolia and Russia? Just
curious.


AND me <

Did you, no offense, go over and study Tarbosaurus? I know you did at the
Dinofest in Arizona, which was a very limited time. Are there Tarbosaur
specimens in the USA that we need to know about that can be studied.

AND Currie AND Carr AND Sereno AND
Brochu have all found that the similarities between Tyrannosaurus rex and
T[whatever] bataar fossils show them to be more similar to each other than
to Albertosaurus/Gorgosaurus grade forms (position of Daspletosaurus
relative to the two "T"s, though, is debated amongst us).<<


Be that as it may, though, we could be wrong.  If so, show us.  Give the
world a more compelling argument than "Tarbosaurus lived in Asia".  In point
of fact, I know of at least one guy who DOES have some potential evidence
for this, and his work is currently being reviewed.  Where it winds up,
though, we'll have to see.<<

* Well, to quote a famous line, Just wait for the Damn Paper! A monograph on
Tarbosaurus IS BEING WORKED ON. Not by George or I, but Someone who has
access to the specimens. And Tom, you should know this, he was at the Phil
Party. I can't say what his findings, right now are, but he did say that the
illustrated tyrannosaurids are woefully done, and the ones done in the big
Russian monograph could have been done better. It's not a good idea to work
on just illustrations.

Tracy L. Ford
P. O. Box 1171
Poway Ca  92074