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Re: Psittacosaurid Revelations



Gunter Van Acker wrote-
 
> Since recent psittacosaur discoveries include skeletons associated with gastroliths, it is also
> suggested that they may have been omnivorous.
 
Well, described in 1924 is kind of recent :-) .  Who suggested lithophagy was associated with omnivory?
 
> 1. pachycephalosaurs have been considered as omnivores, since their teeth are almost identical to
> troodontid teeth (the latter are certainly meat-eaters, and even possible omnivores).
 
Stegoceras premaxillary teeth are rather similar to some Troodon teeth.  More basal pachycephalosaurs like Goyocephale are said to have canine-like premaxillary teeth.  Pachycephalosaur cheek teeth are quite different from those of Troodon, being much shorter and not nearly as recurved, more similar to basal ornithischians or ankylosaurs.
 
> 2. heterodontosaurids, having a complex array of teeth
 
Perhaps a better reason for omnivory in heterodontosaurids would be the serrated premaxillary fangs, although similar structures are present in the herbivorous Muntiacus.
 
> 3. some basal sauropodomorphs ("prosauropods") were probably omnivorous.
 
As shown by a lizard skeleton in the stomach of a Nova Scotia specimen, yes, they were.
 
> On the other hand, there are several other dinosaur genera that have remains associated with
> gastroliths;
 
Syntarsus, Poekilopleuron and Lourinhanosaurus (the allosauroid, not Lourinhasaurus the camarasaurid) have been found with gastroliths.  In fact, a wide range of animals are known to be lithophagous, including obviously carnivorous species like Protorosaurus and certain snakes.
 
> My conclusion is that gastroliths are not necessarily an indication for an omnivorous diet.
 
Good conclusion, but why was there ever any other?
 
> I would like to see conclusive evidence for the reported association of bones in psittacosaur stomach
> region (as mentioned in L. Rey's book).
 
Now this is interesting, but should not be connected to the presence of gastroliths.  Any details?
 
> Let's assume that these integumentary structures were at least keratinous, what could have been their > function ?
 
Well, as every reptile has keratinous integumentary structures, that's a pretty safe assumption :-) .  As the information is embargoed and you know nothing about the structures other than they exist however, hypothesizing on possible function is meaningless.  I don't believe Psittacosaurus will bring any relief to those wanting coelurosaur-like integument on ornithischians, but I can't say more.....
 
> On a related matter; why did psittacosaurs have such a short temporal (Aptian to Albian) and
> geographic range (Mongolia & northern China) ? Were they outclassed as dominant omnivores by
> ornithomimids and troodontids (fast runners and more intelligent).
 
This would be because Asian stratigraphy is very uncertain, so people use biological markers, not radiometric dates, to estimate the age of most formations.  Thus, people assign an Aptian-Albian age to those sediments with Psittacosaurus in them.  Also, Psittacosaurus was only a single genus, so it wouldn't be expected to last very long.  The most recent estimates place Psittacosaurus-bearing formations in the Barremian-Albian range (Lucas and Estep, 1998).
 
> If I recall correctly, another new non-theropod Yixian specimen (?a basal ornithopod) with
> integumentary structures was reported a while ago on the DML. The fact that only theropods were
> found during the initial years of quarrying, gave us sufficient evidence to prove that at least several
> non-avian theropods had feathers, but it also meant that our view of scaly non-theropods continued to > exist.
 
Jeholosaurus has no integumentary structures reported- not scales, not filaments, not feathers.  Psittacosaurus has been reported to have tubercular scales along its arm 
(http://www.cmnh.org/fun/dinosaur-archive/2001May/msg01018.html).  The only other confirmed Yixian ornithischian is Jinzhousaurus, which I do not yet have the description of (but would like to, if someone has the pdf :-) ).  There is no published evidence for anything other than tubercular scales or dermal scutes on any ornithischian.
 
Mickey Mortimer