In a message dated 2/20/99 5:32:50 PM EST, augwhite@neosoft.com writes: << Ruben's point is that you *cannot* go from hepatic pump to avian without a step that is so debilitating as to be nonviable. >> If this is indeed what Ruben is saying, I think it's wrong. But I wasn't at the conference, so this may all just be hearsay.