Re: Hadro necks, etc.

["Allan Edels" <edels@email.msn.com>]

Andy:

    I have pointed out several times since I started this thread, that I
don't think the reconstructions are necessarily WRONG, but that they don't
quite look right to ME.  If the animal has that size neck, then it has it.
Just because its size and shape somehow offends my personal view of the
animal - does not mean that it is wrong.  It is what it is.

    My personal sense of proportion tells me that the hadosaurs where the
necks were short proportional to the head length, look good with the thicker
necks, versus the longer-necked variety.

    Allan Edels

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Farke <andyfarke@hotmail.com>
To: dinosaur@usc.edu <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 9:20 AM
Subject: Hadro necks, etc.


>I've been reading with great interest the debate on hadro neck
>musculature. Great to see non-theropod debate!
>
>Anyhow, I think that the big-necked hadros are a good idea. I've seen
>one argument that animals with small, light skulls didn't need big
>necks. Most of the hadro skulls I've seen are quite big and robust--more
>heavily built than many theropods. Discussion with several
>paleontologists shows that there is evidence of a nuchal ligament on the
>cervicals. The ambiguity of evidence concerning the "mummies" shows that
>alot of re-study is necessary. They are some of the most valuable
>specimens known, but relatively little research has been done on these
>(other than the original papers on them).
>
>Whether or not a reconstruction "looks right" is no indicator of whether
>it is correct. I think T. rex looks quite silly with those tiny little
>arms, but that doesn't mean they were bigger.
>
>Also, regarding paleo reconstructions--I don't agree with taking
>evidence for one animal (e.g., sauropod spikes) and applying it to all.
>Likewise with feathered dinosaurs--just because one had them doesn't
>mean all did. I won't hold that against anyone though--I still love G.
>S. Paul's dinosaurs, spiked sauropods and all!
>
>And that's my two cents for the day,
>Andy Farke
>
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