RE: The absurdity, the absurdity (was: Cooperating theropods?)

["Bartlema, Lauri, L." <BartlemaL@emh10.bliss.army.mil>]

May be off base here, but I believe the person who said moose and elk
are the same animal is referring to the fact that what Americans call
moose, Europeans call elk.  What Americans call elk, others call wapiti.


Lauri L. Bartlema
Curatorial Assistant
Directorate of Environment
Fort Bliss, Texas

> ----------
> From:         Betty Cunningham[SMTP:bettyc@flyinggoat.com]
> Reply To:     bettyc@flyinggoat.com
> Sent:         Tuesday, April 07, 1998 1:10 PM
> To:   dinosaur@usc.edu
> Subject:      Re: The absurdity, the absurdity (was: Cooperating
> theropods?)
> 
> > > > "Typical male response?"  I'd check my sources before making
> comments
> > > > like this.  You just wind up looking really stupid.  Female
> bison and
> > > > buffalo carry horns.  Most, but not all, genera of antelope also
> carry
> > > > horns. Female elk and moose (which are the same species, which I
> should
> > > > have remembered but didn't), like most cervids, do not have
> antlers.
> > > > Reindeer (or caribou, if you prefer), another prey species of
> wolves, do
> > > > indeed have antlers.
> >> since CHRIS posted a list of horned and antlered animals where 2
> out of
> >> 5 were sexually dimorphic so that fully half that species had no
> antlers
> >> whatsoever, I think CHRIS had better check his sources (like who
> said
> >> what) or wind up looking etc.
> > No, only one was sexually dimorphic.  And I never said they weren't.
> > Elk and moose, FYI, are the same animal.  One's just a European
> name.  I
> > never said anything that was incorrect; you said that all of these
> > animals lacked horns (or antlers, as the case may be), which is not
> the
> > case.
> 
> I'm really tempted here to use your own methods but...
> Having encountered BOTH animals in the wild I assure you they are
> different animals.
> Moose are spatulated-antlered animals that live near ponds in the
> North
> feeding on pond weeds-the males have beards.  And they're MUCH bigger
> than elk.  
> Elk look like big Red deer.  We have Tule Elk closest to us here in
> California.
> 
> Would you care to check your facts? ;]  
> 
> >> Can we keep the discussion civil?
> > Hey, when you correct me (incorrectly) and generalize on basis of
> > gender, you throw civility right out the window.  If you wanna keep
> it
> > civil, leave out the gender bias and get your facts straight before
> > telling me I'm wrong.  I have nothing against being corrected, but
> when
> > the corrections are obviously incorrect I get a little irritated.
> 
> same here LOL (see Elk and Moose above)
> 
> >> If you were upset about the way I phrased the posting, it's my odd
> sense
> >> of humor and wasn't to be taking as a personal attack.
> 
> > Alright, I apologize if I overreacted.
> >> I was wrong about buffaloes, forgot they were Bovines-'nuff said
> > Fine, done, let's eat.
>