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For a science fiction treatment of a dinosaurid advanced civilization (which also includes humans - 65 million years after the non-extinction event) see "West of Eden" by Harry Harrison (1984) (there are 2 more books as they turned the story into a trilogy).
Allan Edels
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Subject: Re: [dinosaur] Hypothetical dinosauroid civilisation
I would imagine that a truly advanced civilization would have likely had an impact on earlier parts of the fossil record, as well- they would have likely done paleontology of their own, shifting earlier remains upwards, and would likely have used up a certain
amount of fossil fuel reserves. Not sure to what extent any of that would have happened.
On 12/30/2019 4:59 PM, Thomas Richard Holtz wrote:
Greetings,
Exactly the same as we have preserved for Paleolithic humans: stone and bone tools and artifacts, modified shells and beads, fire pits, etc. (The chances of finding petroglyphs and cave paintings would be slim, since we would need to find actual rock surfaces
from that time period which were subsequently buried.)
A more advanced dinosauroid culture--an actual civilization [that is, a culture that builds cities]--would have a greater chance of preservation, as the artifacts they make become larger and more preservable. (For example, buildings, roads, metal tools,
trash middens, etc.) And even more technologically advanced civilizations might leave behind the remains of plastics, massive erosional surfaces (i.e., mines and development), landfills, and an isotopic signature related to industrial waste products (including
greenhouse gases).
Good day to all listmembers, I have an unusual question regarding hypothetical civilisation of highly intelligent dinosaurs, or "dinosauroids". Would it be possible for us to find some traces of late Cretaceous civilisation similar to - say - human societies
of late Pleistocene (late stone age)? What would be its most remarkable traits (markers) in the fossil record? Thank you for your thoughts!
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