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Re: CÃmo se dice therapod y synapsid en espaÃol?



2010/4/16 Luis Rey <luisrey@ndirect.co.uk>:
> Well, let's say: "ceratopsios" and "ceratÃpsidos" would be the right terms.
>

Ah. Thank you.

> On 16 Apr 2010, at 10:34, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
>> 2010/4/16 Luis Rey <luisrey@ndirect.co.uk>:
>>>
>>> "Ceratopsianos" is a just corruption of the English "Ceratopsians"... the
>>> correct name is "ceratÃpsidos" as far as I know.
>>
>> So one cannot distinguish between ceratopsians and ceratopsids in Spanish?
>>
>>> On 16 Apr 2010, at 08:40, Jocelyn Falconnet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you sure ? I know few about Spanish, but as Ceratopsia =/=
>>>> Ceratopsidae... ceratopsianos =/= ceratÃpsidos. For those who rely on
>>>> Wiki:
>>>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceratopsia/ and
>>>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceratopsidae/
>>>>
>>>> PS: and as I like ICZN rules and Ancient Greek, we should not forget
>>>> that
>>>> those names based on *Ceratops* are just terrible. Just like those based
>>>> on
>>>> *Gorgonops*, by the way. And please, I don't care about the so-called
>>>> prevailing usage: why should we be an exception while all other
>>>> zoologists
>>>> follows strictly the ICZN rules ?
>>>>
>>>> Luis Rey a Ãcrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> I find this discussion very funny... there is no such "mystery" Â.
>>>>> Since I seem to be the the only Castilian speaking in this list (surely
>>>>> I'm not!), I >already< corrected Dora (including part of her
>>>>> "periquito"
>>>>> phrase that was wrong).
>>>>> Yes Âthe correct answer (and there are NO other ways of writing the
>>>>> words. YES there >is< a "Spanish standard" in this case) is : terÃpodo
>>>>> y
>>>>> sinÄpsido.
>>>>> Which doesn't mean that we can't find some idiot-spelled things like
>>>>> Â"ceratopsiano"(bogus translation of ceratopsian) when you have the
>>>>> correct
>>>>> "ceratÃpsido" ... Âsomething that I have unfortunately read in the
>>>>> Spanish
>>>>> translation of "Field Guide of Dinosaurs". A shame!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Apr 2010, at 04:36, John Wilkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/04/2010, at 8:46 AM, Raptorial Talon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, Raptorial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's like David said:
>>>>>>>> Es como dijo David:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TERÃPODO y SINÄPSIDO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gathered that when I read his post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was going by a memory of phonetic pronunciation, hence my
>>>>>>> recommending that one check a site where it would be correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do have to wonder if speakers of other languages have arguments
>>>>>>> about the correct (i.e. etymological) pronunciation of Latinate terms
>>>>>>> as we English-speakers do. Obviously there's no real standard between
>>>>>>> languages . . . which I suppose is an argument against having them
>>>>>>> within a language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a nice article on this at Wiki, of course
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_pronunciation#Pronunciation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems each language uses its own phonological practices with Latin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall from studying Latin for ten minutes back in the 80s that
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> had been a movement to reform Latin translation back in the 30s,
>>>>>> removing
>>>>>> soft "g"s and "c"s, and so on. I was taught this, so that I annoy
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> biologist I speak to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jstor.org/pss/2871569
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Wilkins, Assistant Professor, Philosophy, Bond Uni
>>>>>> john@wilkins.id.au
>>>>>> "Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows
>>>>>> suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'."
>>>>>> <http://xkcd.com/552/>
>>>
>>> Luis Rey
>>>
>>> Visit my website
>>> http://www.luisrey.ndtilda.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andreas Johansson
>>
>> Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
>
> Luis Rey
>
> Visit my website
> http://www.luisrey.ndtilda.co.uk
>
>



-- 
Andreas Johansson

Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?