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Re: Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens in american collections.
Dear colleagues,
Revising the Iturralde and Gasparini papers, personally I made a catalog of
reptiles Cuban fossils. All of then are Oxfordian.
I don't have anything about the specimens in Museum of Paleontology, University
of California at Berkeley and National Museum of Natural History, Washington
DC.
If somebody knows something about this specimens, please writes me.
Thanks in advance.
Museo Nacional de Historia Natural (MNHNH)
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MNHNH P3001 Cranium. (Metriorhynchidae)
MNHNH P3002 Four articulated vertebrae.
MNHNH P3003 Long bone fragment contained in a small concretion.
MNHNH P3004 Fragmentary distal femur of small plesiosaur
MNHNH P3005 Large cranium and articulated mandible (Gallardosaurus
iturraldei)*
MNHNH P3006 Fragmentary limb girdle
MNHNH P3007 Isolated plesiosaur vertebrae.
MNHNH P3008 Fragmentary plesiosaur cranium.
MNHNH P3009 Cranium of crocodyliform. (Metriorhynchidae: Geosaurus sp.)*
MNHNH P3065 Fragmentary plesiosaur femur
MNHNH P3066 A fragmentary plesiosaur mandible.
MNHNH P3068 A skull fragment of a large marine reptile (OPhthalmosauria
indet.)*
MNHNH P3069 Fragments of plesiosaur mandible and skull with molds of teeth
and two isolated teeth.
MNHNH P3070 Fragmentary plesiosaur vertebrae.
MNHNH P0828 Pliosauroidea indet.
MNHNH P3806 (third pterosaur ?)
MNHNH P3807 Icthyosauria indet.
MNHNH P3808 Icthyosauria indet.
MNHNH P3864 Icthyosauria indet.
MNHNH P3125 Carapax (Caribemys oxfordiensis)* (not MNHNH P3209)
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Paleontological Collection of Instituto de GeologÃa y PaleontologÃa (IGP), La
Habana, Cuba.
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IGP-V208 small cranium and articulated mandible
(pterosaur: Cacibupteryx caribensis)*
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Lost
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No specimen number - Carlos de la Torre(1939)
Sphaerodontes caroli
No specimen number - America Ana Cuervo(1949). Two vertebrae.
No specimen number - Carlos de la Torre.
dinosaur?
No specimen number - Gutierrez (1981)
dinosaur?
No specimen number - C. Judoley and G. Furrazola (1964) Skull and
fragmentary skeleton of a marine reptile
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American Museum of Natural History, Department of Vertebrate Paleontology
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AMNH DVP 2000 (pterosaur: Nesodactylus hesperius)*
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Museum of Paleontology, University of California at Berkeley
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UCMP 105703 fragmentary vertebra
UCMP 105704 fragmentary vertebra
UCMP 105720 fragmentary vertebra
UCMP 105725 fragmentary vertebra
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National Museum of Natural History, Washington DC
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USNM 18697 Two plesiosaur vertebrae
USNM 18699 Plesiosaur cranium and mandibular fragments (Metriorhynchidae)
USNM 18712 bone fragments
USNM 18721 posterior cervical vertebra
USNM 18688 "plesiosaur vertebrae"
USNM 451942 5 dorsal vertebrae (Thalattosuchia indet.?)
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"Some Dinosaurs Survived the Asteroid Impact"
Yes. We call them " birds ".
----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo" <yceballos@uci.cu>
Para: "dml" <dinosaur@usc.edu>, "dvrt" <VRTPALEO@usc.edu>
Enviados: Jueves, 17 de Septiembre 2009 16:12:32 (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
Asunto: Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens in american collections.
Hello,
Dear colleagues, Sorry for my truncated messages and my English.
Recently I revised this paper "Synopsis of Late Jurassic Marine Reptiles from
Cuba" by MANUEL ITURRALDE-VINENT and MARK A. NORELL. This paper is a catalog of
Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens, and I noted that some specimens are
in american collections.
In UCMP-University of California at Berkeley, Museum of Paleontology this Cuban
Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens are: UCMP-105703, 105704, 105720, 105725.
In USNM-National Museum of Natural History this Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian
specimens are: USNM 18699, USNM 18712, USNM 18688, USNM 18721, and USNM 18697.
I wrote to the collections managers of this museums and they responded that the
fossil reptilian specimens are lost. If somebody knows something about this
specimens, please writes me.
Thanks in advance.
In my another truncated message I sended this:
http://www.medioambiente.cu/Planeta_Tierra/download/Un%20mundo%20de%20ciencia%20(1).pdf
http://www.medioambiente.cu/Planeta_Tierra/download/Un%20mundo%20de%20ciencia%20(2).pdf
and
http://www.medioambiente.cu/uptnatgeo/index1.htm
In the link 'Clases' you can found many conferences about geology and fossils
from Cuba.
----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Mark Goodwin" <mark@berkeley.edu>
Para: "Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo" <yceballos@uci.cu>
Enviados: Jueves, 17 de Septiembre 2009 14:19:32 (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
Asunto: Re: cuban fossil in collections of UCMP.
Dear Yasmani,
I'm sorry but we have not located the vertebrae. ÂWe have been in touch again
with colleagues at the University of Chicago, the Field Museum and the American
Museum of Natural History. ÂUnfortunately, at the time of the graduate
student's tragic suicide in 1986, it's unclear where the specimens were exactly
as the loan was made to him directly at the time by a UCMP staff person and not
to the institution as protocols dictate - thus the difficulty. ÂWe attempted to
locate these specimens from an earlier request in 2002 and were not successful.
ÂBut will keep trying and I will ask around at the upcoming Society of
Vertebrate Paleontology meetings in Bristol next week. ÂHopefully, one of the
plesiosaur workers will have knowledge of their current location.
Best,
Mark
On Sep 16, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo wrote:
Dear colleague,
nothing about the 'fossil vertebrae'?
Best,
Yasmani
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"Some Dinosaurs Survived the Asteroid Impact"
Yes. We call them " birds ".
----- Mensaje original -----
De: mark@berkeley.edu
Para: "Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo" < yceballos@uci.cu >
CC: rlcaldwell@berkeley.edu , pholroyd@berkeley.edu , kpadian@berkeley.edu ,
bclemens@berkeley.edu
Enviados: MiÃrcoles, 2 de Septiembre 2009 12:31:41 (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
Asunto: Re: cuban fossil in collections of UCMP.
Dear Yasmani,
The fossil vertebrae are catalogued into UCMP but apparently were loaned
to a scientist win the 1980's who has since died, and the fossils were not
returned to UCMP. ÂWe are in the process of contacting the University of
Chicago, and other paleontologists, particularly those on the study you
mentioned, who may either have them or have knowledge of the vertebrae.
Please contact me directly if you have any questions, and I will let you
know as soon as I find out more. ÂFor your information, many of the people
you contacted in your earlier email are not involved in the management of
the UCMP collections.
Best,
Mark
Hello, I'm a young cuban paleontology research. Recently I revised this
paper "Synopsis of Late Jurassic Marine Reptiles from Cuba" by MANUEL
ITURRALDE-VINENT and MARK A. NORELL.
This paper is a catalog of Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens, and
I noted that some specimens are in in collections of UCMP-University of
California at Berkeley, Museum of Paleontology.
This Cuban Jurassic fossil reptilian specimens are UCMP-105703, 105704,
105720, 105725.
Please, I want a favor of yours, I want that you take a photo of every
specimen, and send me a copy to this email or yasmaniceballos@gmail.com .
Please.
Thanks.....
Mark B. Goodwin, Ph.D.
Museum of Paleontology
University of California
1101 Valley Life Sciences Bldg.
Berkeley, CA 94720-4780
510.643.9745 (voice)
510.642.1822 (fax)
mark@berkeley.edu
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Mark B. Goodwin, Ph.D.
Assistant Director
Museum of Paleontology
1101 Valley Life SciencesÂBldg.
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-4780
mark@berkeley.edu
Voice: Â510-643-9745
FAX: Â510-642-1822