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RE: Avian origin questioned by John Ruben
I used to have a really useful link to a site that set out all of the
competing hypotheses, evidence for and against and what further evidence was
required to support each one. I can't find it and nor can google so I guess
it has not been maintained.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: mkivi@cc.joensuu.fi [mailto:mkivi@cc.joensuu.fi]
Sent: 03 August 2009 21:47
To: dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: Avian origin questioned by John Ruben
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090609092055.htm
The link above was actually sent to me by a creotard - I mean
creationist who thought this single piece of paper is a proof agains
evolution.
A plaoentologist (known as AronRa in youtube) "friend" of mine
commented on the article:
"Every article trying to deny the ancestry of aves within theropoda
are written by John Ruben. In the 1990s, Ruben formed an organization
called B.A.N.D. (Birds Are Not Dinosaurs) for the purpose of denying
the already mounting evidence to the contrary. Don't ask me why. It
never made sense. At this point, his argument is already lost. Birds
definitely ARE dinosaurs, but Ruben is determined never to admit that."
Any thoughts?
I'd mostly like to know about the credentials of this, Ruben character
as well as any possible new discoveries on the behalf of
theropoda/aves connection. The newest udate I have so far is
Epidexipteryx hui - the protofeathered dinosaur that predates
Archaeopteryx sp.